The thing is a disease from an alien race Hi all. I believe that many the thing fans dont know what the thing exactly is. But i think i know now!
A documentary that was about horror movies included The Thing.
It interviewed John Carpenter and he stated that he had undergone numberous stomach operations following a stomach cancer scare in the early eighties while he was helping right the treatment for 'The Thing'.
His premise was "what if cancer had conciousness?... what if it could think and react?"...
Imagine another alien race out in universe, imagine how different they must be compared to humans, their intelligence, their body system, form and so on. This alien race had spacecrafts 100.000 years ago.
Imagine how their types of diseases would be. Imagine their type of the worst deadly disease then you get the thing. Also judging by the way the thing works and looks and so on.
Their hole planet got wiped out and the last survivors escaped the hell in a spacecraft. But one was assimilated of course. And all the battle and horror that ocurred at the us outpost ocurred in the spacecraft, and their hole planet.
It also explains why the ship is wobbling and moves unnormal when you see it in the beginning of the movie. And the spacecraft had landed on the snow, not crashed. The thing had taken over almost everybody at the ship and one of the aliens decided to crash the ship but the thing makes it to the cockpit in the last minutes and safely landed the spacecraft to later swim, out and freeze up.
DAMN what i LOVE this conclusion!!!. It so so AWESOME. I am 100% CONFIDENT of this theory. And so should you be. Because you cant come up with a better, reasonable and more awesome conclusion then this.
John Carpenter is a GOD!!
The Thing IS an alien virus.
Lets hear some feedback :D
death_rocker110- 12-29-2007
That's a possibility, but I personally like to think that The Thing is an alien form itself because it just seems more creepy that way y'know?
Art- 12-29-2007
Yes i know exactly what you mean. And that conclusion you like is a terrific one and also very creepy.
But i prefer seing it as an alien disease. This conclusion is also very creepy seing that the thing is a virus/disease is a much more scary and creepy conclusion in my eyes.
death_rocker110- 12-30-2007
Yes that does sound pretty logical because it can infect other people just as fast as HIV can infect people.
I personally always liked to think that the original thing was built out of the matter of its own planet. Which would probably mean that there would be a huge, gigantic ball of the thing out there somewhere in the universe.
XidiouX- 12-31-2007
A disease which immeasurably improves the organism it infects?
Semanticide- 01-01-2008
A disease which immeasurably improves the organism it infects?
A creative disease, in other words, rather than a destructive disease? A disease that, instead of being the parasite to a victim, becomes the host.
Art- 01-02-2008
A disease which immeasurably improves the organism it infects?
What? the infected organism DIE when been taken over by the thing. is that being improved?
XidiouX- 01-03-2008
It's certainly debatable whether or not the consciousness of a creature, following assimilation, irreversibly ceases to exist. The fact that the imitation is perfect suggests that this may not be the case.
To put it another way: suppose I have a teleportation machine which can teleport anything that can fit in it from one location to another. During the teleportation procedure, the original copy of the object/animal/person is destroyed and a new, identical copy is created at a different location. If a person is teleported, all that changes from their point of view is their surroundings. Do they come to any harm? If not, well, I think you can see what I'm getting at.
XidiouX
Art- 01-04-2008
xidioux.
I dont understand exactly what your saying.
But the guy who have made this website states that the person/animal whos an imimitation is dead.
Thats what i also believe and that seems more logical. The dog in the beginning of the film acts very strange for a dog. It looks outside the window when they bring in the norweigan thing and so on.
Semanticide- 01-17-2008
xidioux.
I dont understand exactly what your saying.
But the guy who have made this website states that the person/animal whos an imimitation is dead.
Thats what i also believe and that seems more logical. The dog in the beginning of the film acts very strange for a dog. It looks outside the window when they bring in the norweigan thing and so on.
Don't argue with him...
S
death_rocker110- 01-17-2008
No one's arguing. Just debating.
Lets try and keep it friendly.
Macshat- 01-18-2008
Don't argue with him...
S
Yeah, yeah man, just relax!
grasshopper- 01-19-2008
When an organism is taken over by the Thing, the organism dies.
Plain and simple. The Thing uses a facade to move around. Threaten it, and the Thing will show itself.
Jed, the dog, only appeared to be a dog.
Watch the scene with Blair explaining the kennel-Thing.
That should clear this up.
The Thing as a disease? Possible.
Carpenter a God? Hardly.
death_rocker110- 01-19-2008
So wait. Is the dead victim's corpse used as the thing's facade, or does the thing create a facade itself? And if so how?
I tried watching the scene where Blair is explaining it, but he just said it in a way that was kinda hard to understand.
grasshopper- 01-22-2008
Hello death-rocker,
Let's watch how the Thing moves around during the movie.
It needs to be alone with the intended target for about 30 minutes. In this time the IMITATION is done perfectly.
In the scene with the Norwegian scientific VCR recording, you can see that the imitated cell stops excisting when another cell is taken over by the Thing.
However, when the Thing has build up enough mass (human/dog) a human-Thing remains intact, while a part of it starts imitating the victim. The assimilation starts immediatly, even during the death struggle.
While Bennings-Thing was assimilating, the Norwegian Thing played 'dead' lying on the table. So, at that time, there where already 2 Things.
See waht I am getting at?
As the Thing imitated it's host, the assimilation is full-size, but only cell-deep. Everything looks the way it should look, but only as far the eye can see.
For a Thing, there is no difference between it's blood, muscles, bones or brain. It's just THING material. Put human blood beside it and a reaction WILL follow.
So, if a human-Thing get's a bullet in it's head, the Thing wouldn't die. The damage it get's from the gunshot is not enough to kill it.
Very likely that only fire will do the trick.
For a human, the brain is immense important. For a Thing, a brain is just 'some other stuff which holds usefull information about everything'.
Blair does say: Everything seems to be normal. But the stuff he is holding at that time, is living Thing material.
Does this clear it up? Feel free to ask more :wink:
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